I just bought some metal ones for my Focus which is 63.36, when I have my wheels off the Fiesta in a week or two I will test fit them for you (and me, lol).

 

Thanks man. Yeah I need to find my set up for hub centric rings and lugs as my wheels arrived today. Need tunner lugs but scared to order some and still they don't fit. Enkei's have very small holes, haha!

 

where did you buy from? tirerack will include hub rings and lugnuts with all wheel purchases.

I guess I will try out my Focus lugnuts for you/me/everyone too. I'm really surprised there are not more current or former Focus owners on here.

 

Not tirerack. They are too pussy when it comes to wheel fitment. Sorry I know they are vendors on here but they keep everything way too close to stock. Plus I don't like those cheap chrome plated lugs. Going with Muteki black tuner lugs.

 

Spoke like a true....LOL

Yeah if you would have called and known what you were looking for I would have been happy to help. And we do give tuner lugs and the tool when required.

The web site is designed to keep customers from coming to close to rubbing or damaging there vehicle. It is not set up to help people push the limits, bucause way to many people dont have what it takes to modify their vehicles, and the rate of return is super high. So if you want to push the limit, just call me and I will help work it out!

I call BS on us canceling your order. That is ludacris. We let aggressive fitments out the door every minute, you just have to confirm you are aware and we wont guarantee the fitment... and out the door it goes. No lying or deception needed, just say I want it and take the risk and we will sell you anything. Seriously.

 

well they give you nice polished stainless tuner lugs actually. I have re-polished mine after they got rusty one winter. And I'm sure if you called them they will sell you whatever offset you want...

 

Yeah still not a fan of polished/chrome lugs. Went with black ones. Already ordered. And I personally had an experience with Tire Rack where they didn't think a item would fit and so they canceled my order.

 

That's why you do not tell them what it's on lol. I hate companies that are like that.



As for rings, they're not exactly required, but it will aid in centering the wheels and may help ride quality. I've seen wheels ride great with and without them and sometimes, wheels are not cut straight and you can't use rings anyway.

 

Finally we get along. Haha. Yeah and then when I don't tell them what they are going on they call, then cancel it. So I went with Vivid Racing. Lowest price, free shipping, BillMeLater with 0% interest for 6 months.

Yeah so not really needed huh? I might try them without. I was thinking....if you hand tighten, move the rim around the lugs will settle centered?

 

That's the purpose of tapered seats on lugnuts.

There are some European automakers (*cough* Mercedes and Volvo *cough*) that use wheel bolts instead but the center hole is larger than the hub that sticks out (on some cars). Believe me, these suck beyond belief because you cannot rest the wheel on the center while you find the hole lol.

But if a Mercedes can do it and ride that nicely, I'm sure a lot of others can as well. It's just a matter of rim quality. I had a Silverado that had ABS issues because the lugnut seats were so bad but with rims like BBS, I've never had a single concern. The fact this car is so light means less stress on the seats as well so I'd imagine it'd be even easier.

Try them without and I think you'll be fine. If they shake, the rings still may not help you.

 

Mac, can you help us out with the size of the Fiesta hub and the lug diameter and pitch?

 

Most of the Enkeis that I show are 75 CB with the Hub diameter on the fiesta 63.4.

The standard lug dimesions are:

NC12X1.5 34UL 35TL 19H CLSD with a conical seat for most enkei wheels.

 

Oh, and BTW, the straight angle seats (most factory lugs) are far better than the rounded type (Toyota and Honda factory lugs, among a couple others).

 

Thanks Andrew. I will be trying it when my lugs arrive next week. I want my set up a specific way. And oh yeah mercedes are the worst.

 

Well, if I were bad mouthing and spreading things that were not true about someone (I take insults like profanity toward my company personally) then I would expect to get a response. A response you got.. I am not sure what you expected to get on a Tire Rack sponsored site where I am here to offer both tech support and help. I have a feeling you had already made up your mind that we were not the solution for your tire and wheel needs long ago.

Again to other folks that read these posts, we have no problem selling aggresive wheels and tires. We are going to make it clear that we cannot guarantee fitment if its outside of what we reccomend. We are here to help, and that is why I am on this post. I enjoy working towards finding solutions for customers; expecially the customers from the Focus and Fiesta Forums.

 

You have offered nothing in terms of help or support. Just because you support something doesn't make your word that of gods. So just because you sponsor that doesn't mean you MUST reply just to gain business. And again you never offered any support in terms of my original question, so thanks. You again sir have no first hand experience with my dealing with your company. You see only what you want and don't even have any first hand experience with my past orders from your site. My first order was with a Ford Focus years ago, and it was all good. Then I tried to order for my Speed3 and it went to hell. It's been so long I don't have exact details but a order was canceled because it was out of recommendation your company had. Maybe things have changed from then to now. But yes my mind is made up before this, and now it is for sure, as you shouldn't take it personally as that reflect bad on those you represent. And individual who acts on his emotion representing an entire group looks poorly IMHO. If you are here merely for support, how about you answer question that were raised in this post?

My old car that I ordered several set of SVT Focus EAP wheels from Tire Rack.

Thanks,
-Ray

 

oh and xbox, I as sorry I thought you had found your asnwer and I didnt chime on that becuase it seemed you found what you were looking for. Rings and lugs are wheel dependent and it apeared that you had already ordered them.

The hub diameter on a fiesta should be 63.4 ish. The lug depends on the wheel, must enkei's are conical seat.

 

Now I have another question in regards to TPMS, what type of system does Ford use on the Fiesta because the guy at local tire shop I went to said Ford uses a "band" style that attaches to the rim and is mount opposite of the valve stem. On both my previous cars MazdaSpeed3 and Evo X the TPMS was mounted on the valve stem it self. Is Ford different? I'm debating on removing them from the OEM wheels to put in the new Enkei's or not and just run the new ones with a light on...

 

Ford used to use one banded to the rim and located 180* from the stem. They have moved away from this type though.

The foreign cars mostly have a one-piece valve stem type that has the obvious silver stem. Ford and chevy on the other hand have a replaceable valve stem type. The stem looks like a normal stem except they all have a taller cap and the brass below the threads is either tapered to the width of the stem or stepped like on the fiesta.

So basically, these are treated just like the speed3 and evo except the stem pulls through instead of having a nut. The best way to do it would be to buy new stems (I think they're like $6 apiece) and swap the sensor over. It's just a T4 (or something... very small) torx bit. They can be pulled out when they're new but they can be brittle even from the dealer. Using new stems just means swapping back later would be easy. I'm doing this when I have a summer and winter set of wheels.

 

Are the stems specific so that only the dealer has them or do most or all tire shops have universal stems that fit these style of TPMS sensors?

 

I can't say for sure but I would vote no and think that they all interchange. To be honest though, Tousley Ford is a sponsor and at $7 each, it's cheaper than Napa will probably give it to you (I think my shop cost was $6) . I would buy the set for the extra few dollars now and know they fit. Then pick up a spare from Napa or someone and compare them when the tire is off for later reference.

I could completely be smoking crack on the taper vs. step thing though... I just glanced at them a while back and remember them looking different.

Here's a shot of one with a tapered stem... you can compare it to the one on your car with the cap removed to be certain. These are universal across makes.

 

Gah so much work just to make the TPMS work! I might just visit the local dealer and buy one, check the return policy, check my tire shop to see if they have those. IDK. Blah!

But is it also possible the ones on the existing tires will work? As the car is pretty new and just hit 1000 miles.

 

It's worth a shot. Best way in my experience is to push them out away from the rim face. They pull through fine if the rubber is new but since manufacturers buy in serious bulk, who knows how old they were when they were installed.

 

good morning guys,

this is the new sensor if you were replacing the whole thing:

S079 90 SCHRDR 315MHZ SENSOR 12IN LBS 40.00

This is the replacement kit for the sensor:

RBBRVALVEG2 OE REPLACEMENT TPMS VALVE KIT 3.00

Schrader recommends that anytime you move a sensor from one wheel to another, that you replace the gasket kit.... they say that the gaskets are only designed to be compressed into the wheel once and could start to leak on successive installations. They are 3 bucks so I wont argue with them!

 

These aren't the gasket type ones though. These are just like a valve stem except that the brass insert comes all the way out the bottom and screws into the sensor.

They will seal fine if the come out in one piece... Therein lies the challenge as they don't like to come out once installed.

 

the ball portion of the stem is considered a gasket of sorts, it is where the seal happens to the wheel and they dont reccomend re-using that stem. Mostly semantics here, you just need to replace the servicible part whether its a stem replacement or gasket. Thanks for pointing that out!

 

True. I would just not recommend saying "gasket" at most auto parts stores as they'll probably give you the nut/gasket kit for the silver type sensors.



As for multiple sensors, I know the one benefit of the banded sensors is that they auto-corrected locations and IIRC, you did not have to reprogram them to replace them.

I'm sure that changed with these new ones because if they're the same as the Chevy Tahoes and stuff (as they appear to be), they program locations by the programmed serial number. If you rotate them, they will read the wrong place.

 

Oh good to know. I will order the new "gasket" kit then before I get my tires mounted. Now Mac not to take away from your business but are these available in local places or must be ordered from special tire places or dealer? As I need them Monday.

Also can the Ford system use more than one set of TPMS sensors? I know on the Evo the system could only use 4 sensors so if you had a winter set usually those were sensor-less.

 

You can get those elsewere, not a big deal just the price does varry on them quite a bit! I have seen dealers charge 15 each, we usually charge 3$

The sensors are tricky, one one set of codes in your FORD computer at a time. This is a past from the instructions:

" Unless a TPMS triggering tool is purchased, new TPMS
sensors must be initialized at the dealer. Dealership
labor is not included in the cost of the sensors.
If TPMS sensors are not installed in the wheels, the
TPMS warning lights will stay permanently illuminated.
An audible chime may also be heard at start-up."

 

Does anyone get an audible chime? I turned off all the bongers in system settings, hope to god I dont have to listen to my car tell me I dont have TPMS.

 

the chime would jsut be at start then go away anyways....

 

Thanks for all the info guys. So got the rims on today and well didn't need the hub centric rings. The lug nuts as predicted do center the rim. I guess hub centric rings are for those who don;t take the time to hand tighten and center the rims?

Also as for the TPMS, since I would have a set of rims with sensors and one without as I want a "winter" set for going snowboarding I just left them in the "stock winter" set. I went with a light on in the Evo for a year plus so no big deal.

 

So you need to replace TPMS's every time you get new tires or wheels?

 

i didnt put them on mine

 

Hmm I haven't heard of the re-build kit for 10 bucks... I was under te impression if I was to buy new wheels with tires I'd have to buy new TPMS's for each new wheel.

 

I am likely wrong on the price, but not too wrong. You can reuse the tpms sensors